tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256879375380353936.post628156465028104511..comments2024-01-02T18:43:12.325-08:00Comments on Libertarian Intelligence: Toward A St. Louis AccordBrian Holtzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18284822676116941984noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256879375380353936.post-29975769595089819082009-08-11T03:13:56.601-07:002009-08-11T03:13:56.601-07:00I've always preferred to avoid the pronouns an...I've always preferred to avoid the pronouns and just redundantly write "a person" or "the person" like as "...the rights of a person and the person's body..." or some suchUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17137070360572872943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256879375380353936.post-11290013332789398092009-08-10T11:31:42.706-07:002009-08-10T11:31:42.706-07:00I've never been a fan of using the plural &quo...I've never been a fan of using the plural "their" to finesse the problem of gender specificity in singular pronouns. In situations where "one" as a pronoun doesn't read well, I usually try to use the feminine in half the cases. So I've switched the second "his" to a "her" above.Brian Holtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18284822676116941984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256879375380353936.post-40809379218565004392009-08-10T10:56:11.367-07:002009-08-10T10:56:11.367-07:00i like iti like itlibertariangirlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256879375380353936.post-91179815364569105152009-08-07T19:18:15.900-07:002009-08-07T19:18:15.900-07:00The expansion adds valuable perspective, and I can...The expansion adds valuable perspective, and I can see better the potential to minimize the factional friction. <br /><br />If I may suggest a couple very minor changes to make it more gender-neutral and minimize the potential to include corporations when defined as persons (delete italic, add bold):<br /><br />"...the full rights of <i>each person</i> <b>individuals</b> to <i>his body</i> <b>their bodies</b>, labor, peaceful production, and voluntary exchanges."<br /><br />and<br /><br />"...the rights of every individual to <i>his</i> life, liberty and property.Mik Robertsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256879375380353936.post-47596508847470867792009-08-07T12:36:13.574-07:002009-08-07T12:36:13.574-07:00Mik, I've expanded the blog posting to clarify...Mik, I've expanded the blog posting to clarify what I think this language says. I see this as different from the Dallas Accord in at least the following ways:<br /><br /> * It summarizes/clarifies the LP's purpose and goal.<br /> * It declares the the LP should unite voters who want more liberty.<br /> * It implicitly rejects the two competing Pledge interpretations of "we're not revolutionaries!" and "smash the state!".<br /> * It suggests an ideological baseline for the LP: never adding to aggression, seeking to banish it, and always advocating full rights to yourbody, labor, peaceful production, and voluntary exchanges.<br /> * It explicitly says that principled Libertarians can disagree about the details of what constitutes aggression.<br /> * It explicitly commits the LP to not contradicting anarchism (whereas the DA was implicit/unofficial).<br /> * It implicitly commits the LP to not contradicting minarchism through Rothbard's tactic (admitted in a 1983 letter) of systematically opposing every possible function of government.<br /><br />I see this as a convention resolution. It could almost fit into the Platform Preamble, but it's probably too inward-facing for that. It definitely cannot be targeted for the SoP as long as the 7/8 rule is in effect.Brian Holtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18284822676116941984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256879375380353936.post-85718694395242441162009-08-07T04:30:00.221-07:002009-08-07T04:30:00.221-07:00MR, it depends. There is no problem with NAPsolut...MR, it depends. There is no problem with NAPsolutists holding the positions they do. That's not dysfunctional.<br /><br />What IS dysfunctional is the intra-party claims that this school or that school are true L-ism, and that deviations are to be suppressed.<br /><br />My suggestion is the St. Louis Accord should be a Resolution.<br /><br />-bobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256879375380353936.post-61735217183778408252009-08-05T21:37:59.477-07:002009-08-05T21:37:59.477-07:00This is much better than trying to address whether...This is much better than trying to address whether government should exist or agreeing to simply not broach the subject with neutral language. <br /><br />The anarchist/minarchist debate is unnecessary for the LP as an organization in my opinion, given that we are so far from either. <br /><br />I'm not sure how this will be any different from the Dallas accord in practice, however. Those who believe government is the aggressive use of force will still object to acknowledging any role for government in LP documents and those who seek steps toward smaller government will still object to documented projections of Anarcho-Libertopia.<br /><br />I suppose if this replaces the Dallas accord it would take away of bit of the stick that has been used to beat ideological "opponents" over the head.<br /><br />Will this be proposed as a resolution at the St. Louis convention or as an amendment to the Statement of Principles?Mik Robertsonnoreply@blogger.com